TONY'S ONLINE TIPS for Wednesday, January 23, 2008
Every Tuesday, I post new Tony Polls questions for your voting entertainment. Since Spider-Man: One More Day has remained the talk of comicdom, we ran a second week of questions on the events of that controversial story.
Here are the results...
Did Peter Parker being married to Mary Jane diminish your enjoyment of Spider-Man comics?
Yes.....14.17% No.....85.83%
Joe Quesada, architect of this story, has an approval rating that makes President Bush look popular. I like Joe and think he's done a lot of terrific things for Marvel, but this story isn't one of them. Peter was single for about 24 years and was married for just over 20, and it sure hasn't stopped him from being the star of countless comic books and three blockbuster movies. As I see it, the only obstacles to telling great stories about a married Spider-Man are the limited imagination of those telling them.
Do you think the undoing of Peter and MJ's marriage will itself be undone in the next year or two?
Yes.....60.83%
No.....39.17%
I voted no on this one. As much as I would like this dumb story undone, I don't think it will happen while Quesada is in charge of the comics and, bad as this idea is, Quesada will remain in charge unless sales take a catastrophic dive...and there's scant chance of that happening as long as Marvel's major competition is the moribund DC.
Don't assume too much in my comments. I wouldn't want to see Quesada get the boot. But I would very much like him to reconsider this terrible creative and business decision.
Do you WANT the undoing of Peter and MJ's marriage to be undone in the next year or two?
Yes.....75.63%
No.....24.37%
As mentioned above, I voted yes on this one.
Do you think May Parker would have given her consent to the undoing of the marriage, even to save her own life?
Yes.....2.56% No.....97.44%
I can only assume that the three people who thought May would have given her consent have never read a Spider-Man comic book or are on crack.
Do you think Uncle Ben would have considered making a deal with the devil a responsible act?
Yes.....3.36% No.....96.64%
See above answer, though, on this one, there were four people voting under the influence of narcotics.
Do you think writers should follow through on consequences of the actions of characters in a logical fashion or just retcon them away when the going gets tough?
Deal with them, man!.....89.74%
Do over! Do over!.....10.26%
When DC Comics allowed a writer whose understanding of Black Lightning was nearly non-existent mess with my creation, I hated it a lot. Yet, if they had asked me to write the character, I would have seized the sow's ear that was that clueless writer's work and made a silk purse from it. I'm no fan of trivial continuity, mind you, but I think publishers of ongoing characters owe their readers better than never-ending do-overs.
TOT reader Scott Edwards sent me a long e-mail with his own thoughts on the above questions. He wrote:
Honest to God, when Spider-Man was initially married to Mary-Jane back in the 1980s (wait...that can't be right, that would make me...old...er) I thought it one of the worst mistakes Marvel could make and that it would be quickly undone. I was a big fan of the 1970s Spider-Man, especially the original animated series with that rockin' theme song, and a college-aged Parker always made the best sense to me. But Marvel surprised me and made it work. They made me enjoy following the adventures of a married Parker. So I vote no on the first question.
As long as Joe Quesada is editor-in-chief, this will never be undone. His severe distaste for a married Spider-Man will cause him to weather out the storm, and as long as they stick to their guns and tell good stories the storm will pass.
I passed on answering the question about undoing this story because of something i realized about comics a while ago. If the industry wants a good chunk of my money, they have to cater to me. If they want to stay in business, then a thirty-ish year old man is probably the last person they need to cater to. Just have them meet me halfway with good stories.
The people who voted yes on Aunt May being OK with this, have they ever actually read a story with Aunt May in it? They may be thinking of that fellow in the iron mask.
His name is Doom.
The people who voted yes on the Uncle Ben question, have they ever actually read the origin story? Maybe they're thinking of the Marvel editor-in-chief.
I passed on the last question, as I belong to the "It depends" club. I've read and watched plenty of things where continuity isn't just frowned upon, it's treated like it's a downright dirty word. The most successful case of this is Archie comics, which *thrive* on not following things through. They just tell entertaining, one-shot stories, and we the reader get to patch together which ones we like. As far as Archie comics are concerned, it doesn't have to make sense. It just has to entertain.
But Marvel and DC, along with all the rest want to have their cake and eat it. They want to tell long, soap-operatic stories that never end, that suck a reader in and never let him go, but don't want to be tied down with the continuity that entails. They want the magic of drawing out and resolving subplots, without the misery of making it fit. If Spider-Man starts referring to his Uncle Frank as teaching him the "great responsibility" lesson, am I to think a clever clue to a story is being laid out, or that someone is simply being sloppy?
I can sympathize with the writers on this though. It's gotta be a tough gig. A lot of times it seems like an outgoing writer is pulling the pin on some hand grenade and tossing it to the new writer to clean up.
Ultimately it comes back to telling good stories. Which is why I hated "One More Day." It was a poorly written story no one liked. And Marvel gave us the same excuse, they always give. That they had to tell a crappy story to set themselves up to tell better stories. But they forget this is a story that changes everything, and those kind of stories are supposed to be the best stories.
These were stories that either made you sit up and take notice or break down and cry, because you knew nothing would ever be the same again. Except Marvel now wants it to be the same as it ever was. And Aunt May can again fuss over that "horrible Spider-Man."
Thanks, Scott.
As I've mentioned frequently, I'm always open to TOT readers suggesting poll questions. I'd really love for you guys and gals to send me some DC questions because I've been coming up blank on that score. Send your ideas to me at:
As for this week's questions...
The nominations for this year's Golden Raspberry Awards, which honor the worst in movies, have been announced...and I'm asking you to vote on all 11 categories:
I review The Amazing Adventures of Nate Banks #1: Secret Identity Crisis, Secret Identity Crisis: Comic Books and the Unmasking of Cold War America and The Walking Dead Volume 2: Miles Behind Us.
ZERO: Burn your money before buying any comic receiving this rating. It doesn't *necessarily* mean there's absolutely nothing of value here - though it *could* - but whatever value it might possess shrinks into insignificance before its overall awfulness.
ONE: Buy something else. Maybe I found something which wasn't completely dreadful in the item, but not enough for me to recommend it when there are better comics available. I only want what's best for you, my children.
TWO: Basic judgment call. I found some value, but not enough to recommend it. My review should give you enough info to decide if you want to take a chance on it. Are you feeling lucky today, punk? Well, are you?
THREE: This denotes something I find perfectly respectable. There are better books out there, but I wouldn't regret buying this item. Based on my review, you should be able to determine if it's of interest to you. Let the Force guide you.
FOUR: I recommend anything earning this rating. Unless you don't like the genre, subject matter, or past work of the creators, I believe you'll enjoy this item. Isn't it uncanny how I can look right into your soul that way?
FIVE: Anything getting this rating is among the best comicdom has to offer. You should buy/read this, even if the genre/subject matter doesn't appeal to you. It's for your own good. Me, I live for comics and books this good...but not in a pathetic "Comic-Book Guy" sort of way.
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