TONY'S ONLINE TIPS for Wednesday, January 16, 2008
Tony's Online Tips and Tony's Other Online Tips (which appears at cbgxtra.com) will be running a day or so behind schedule the rest of this week, due to a variety of crisis (family, computer, etc.) on my end and World Famous Comics web-wizard Justin's busy schedule on his end. But we won't skip any scheduled columns and should be all caught up by Monday.
My e-mail access has been uncertain this week, but I'm trying to answer it as fast as I can. Thanks for your patience.
Here's today's column...
Good lawyers, it is often said, never ask a question to which they don't already know the answer. I'm no lawyer, but I did have a decent idea how your votes would come in on last week's Tony Polls even before I posted the questions.
Near-Mint.....0%
Fine.....2.04%
Very Good.....4.08%
Good.....0%
Fair.....21.43% Poor.....72.45%
There was no surprise for me here. Along with the majority, I went with poor and probably for the same reasons you did. The only question in my mind is what I hated most: the retconning of the Peter/MJ marriage or that one of my favorite characters made a deal with the devil...and a stupid deal at that.
My only surprise here was that only 63.74% of you shared my no vote. In all fairness, though, I had stopped buying the title a while back, preferring to read the stories when they were collected into trade paperbacks.
Which of these currently-running versions of Spider-Man is your favorite?
I voted for Ultimate Spider-Man, all the while knowing the spiffy Spider-Girl has considerable appeal for older and younger readers alike. So it didn't surprise me that Tom DeFalco's perky creation won this particular race.
Near-Mint.....3.90%
Fine.....14.29%
Very Good.....15.59% Good.....23.38%
Fair.....23.38%
Poor.....19.48%
I voted fine on this one, but I tend to enjoy Marvel's events more than most of my readers do. I wrote a long overview of World War Hulk and its companion titles in my "Tony's Tips" column for Comics Buyer's Guide #1640, which should ship to comic shops, newsstands, and subscribers in mid-February. You can read it there or wait a few months for me to run the director's cut of that column right here in TOT.
Rate your level of interest in Marvel's upcoming SECRET INVASION crossover event.
Very High.....6.19%
High.....6.19%
Moderate.....22.68%
Low.....17.53% Very Low.....47.42%
There is no doubt in my mind that comics readers are burnt out on these big company-wide stories, so I wasn't surprised that more than half of you had low or very low interest in this latest event from Marvel. My own interest is moderate, due mostly to my feeling Marvel hasn't adequately addressed the consequences of its other recent mega-stories and to "event fatigue."
Several voters also posted their thoughts on my message board, but John R. Hall, Jr. took the time to write and e-mail me these further comments on the questions:
My ratings votes did not capture my mix of feelings on the questions, so I offer these additions thought:
The storytelling by J. Michael Straczynski in "One More Day" was excellent. He executed a fundamentally hideous idea in an exceptionally capable way. USA Today had an article on this change in Spider-Man. It included a quote from Craig Shutt of Comics Buyer's Guide to the effect that nobody wants to read about a married Spider-Man. Obviously, he has no way of knowing this, and also obviously, it's not correct as written. At most, he can say that nearly everyone he talks to or that he respects feels this way. Even then, the question is whether people don't want to read about a married Spider-Man or don't like the stories that a succession of writers and editors uncomfortable with the concept have written about a married Spider-Man. And also, the question is always "as opposed to what?"
It would seem obvious that if you will not let a character change in any meaningful way, then you will eventually - I would say sooner rather than later - end up writing the same stories over and over. That's what DC found themselves doing in the early 60s, and I believe that was a major reason why Marvel was able to roar past them.
I will keep buying Amazing Spider-Man, at least for a while. I bought the clone stories and the Mary Jane is dead or separated stories. I didn't like them or, more precisely, I didn't like the tone of the stories or the direction they were going, even though the stories were often quite interesting by themselves, but I kept reading. And just as I did then, I will hope that this new direction will be neither permanently nor fully implemented.
In the short run, if Peter Parker has no believable romantic relationships (because he is editorially barred from any long-term relationship and has never been the type of person to enjoy dating for its own sake), no meaningful career prospects (because he is editorially barred from successfully completing graduate school or taking on any adult career that would make use of his substantial intellectual capabilities), and no interesting friends (because any member of the cast who becomes interesting is regarded as taking the focus off Peter, viz the Superman cast implosion of several years ago), I have to ask what there will be to interest a reader over age 10 apart from a succession of fights and action scenes, which are likely to seem new only to new readers.
I find my preferences for the various outlets doing new Spider-Man material tend to be opposite, depending on whether I am expressing my liking for the story-telling or my liking for the character of Peter Parker depicted therein. I like the Peter in the newspaper strip best of all, followed by Spider-Girl, but I like the stories and dialogue best in Ultimate Spider- Man and Amazing Spider-Man. In the latter two, however, I find Peter, in different ways, darkly unrecognizable and unsympathetic. The movies are right in the middle on all scores.
World War Hulk also inspires mixed feelings. I found the off-planet portion different from the usual run of the comic but not that interesting. I found the set-up for the invasion of Earth to be more interesting but not enough for the huge event it became. I liked the Front Line mini-series as I had the one for Civil War, but I didn't care for most of the characters WWH introduced. I found the story tainted by the Civil War mess and, in hindsight, compromised by the secret Skrull invasion story that's coming. And I didn't care for where the character ended up. But then, since Peter David left the series after his historic run, I think the Hulk has been engaged in a series of futile searches for a tone and direction that will support a long-term interest in a developing character. Arguably, in hindsight, Spider-Man has been in that state, with long interludes of interesting stories since Gwen Stacy died.
I'm certainly interested in the Secret Invasion Skrulls among us storyline, but I'm concerned that there are so many recent major story events at Marvel that have left a sour taste and are being defended with the claim that they will make more sense and seem more acceptable after Secret Invasion. I just don't think they can pull it off.
In the past many years, the best job I've seen of writing a good story that very credibly undoes a whole series of distasteful dead ends and sets long-running characters on more solid footing has been the Green Lantern arc. But even there, it seems there are bad stories they could not fully undo and distastefully dark new directions they are happily swinging into. I'm hard pressed to think of any major character I feel close to or excited about these days - I'm nearly 60 - even though the quality of the storytelling is probably the best across the board I've seen in a very long time.
Thanks for your insightful, thoughtful comments, John. To add just one observation of my own...
While I think the best writing in comics today is as good as anything ever published in the medium, I think the storytelling has taken a downswing. Too many comic books aren't accessible to new readers because the writers assume a reader familiarity with every character and sub-plot that just isn't there, and because artists and colorists would rather go for flash than accuracy in providing the visual continuity of the stories.
This week's Tony Polls also concern Spider-Man: One More Day and again fall into the category of questions I think I already know the answers to:
Did Peter Parker being married to Mary Jane diminish your enjoyment of Spider-Man comics?
Do you think the undoing of Peter and MJ's marriage will itself be undone in the next year or two?
Do you WANT the undoing of Peter and MJ's marriage to be undone in the next year or two?
Do you think May Parker would have given her consent to the undoing of the Peter/MJ marriage, even to save her own life?
Do you think Uncle Ben would have considered making a deal with the devil a responsible act?
Do you think writers should follow through on the consequences of the actions of characters in a logical fashion or just retcon them away when the going gets tough?
I was going to break with tradition and reveal my votes while the questions are active. However, given that my beloved readers are at least as smart as I am, you guys and gals almost certainly know where I stand on these matters.
These questions remain active until sometime after midnight on Tuesday, January 22, at which time they will be replaced by brand-new questions. I welcome your suggestions for questions and urge you to send them to me at:
Thanks for spending a part of your day with me. I'll be back tomorrow with more stuff.
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ZERO: Burn your money before buying any comic receiving this rating. It doesn't *necessarily* mean there's absolutely nothing of value here - though it *could* - but whatever value it might possess shrinks into insignificance before its overall awfulness.
ONE: Buy something else. Maybe I found something which wasn't completely dreadful in the item, but not enough for me to recommend it when there are better comics available. I only want what's best for you, my children.
TWO: Basic judgment call. I found some value, but not enough to recommend it. My review should give you enough info to decide if you want to take a chance on it. Are you feeling lucky today, punk? Well, are you?
THREE: This denotes something I find perfectly respectable. There are better books out there, but I wouldn't regret buying this item. Based on my review, you should be able to determine if it's of interest to you. Let the Force guide you.
FOUR: I recommend anything earning this rating. Unless you don't like the genre, subject matter, or past work of the creators, I believe you'll enjoy this item. Isn't it uncanny how I can look right into your soul that way?
FIVE: Anything getting this rating is among the best comicdom has to offer. You should buy/read this, even if the genre/subject matter doesn't appeal to you. It's for your own good. Me, I live for comics and books this good...but not in a pathetic "Comic-Book Guy" sort of way.
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